The Lucifer Effect: How "Good" People Do "Bad" Things

An interesting presentation on how “ordinary good people” can commit “bad and bizarre deeds”. Zimbardo claims that being bad isn't so much a genetic thing as most people are capable of. Bad behavior by good people can be caused by how certain systems and punishment and reward systems are designed in them. He calls this effect of good people doing so bad deeds by obediently following the rules of a system the matchstick effect.

Perhaps no one comprehends the roots of depravity and cruelty better than Philip Zimbardo. He is renowned for such research as the Stanford Prison Experiment, which demonstrated how, in the right circumstances, ordinary people can swiftly become amoral monsters. Evil is not so much inherent in individuals, Zimbardo showed, but emerges dependably when a sequence of dehumanizing and stressful circumstances unfolds. It is no wonder then, that Zimbardo has lent both his expertise and moral outrage to the case of US reservists who perpetrated the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.

Zimbardo starts at 4 min 30 sec.

Zimbardo's latest book, The Lucifer Effect, attempts to understand -how good people do evil deeds. His talk outlines his involvement as expert witness for the defense team of one of the military police officers responsible at Abu Ghraib, and also provides a rich history of psychological research into the kind of behavior transformations evident in Iraq. First, Zimbardo presents a slideshow of Abu Ghraib abominations, including some digital photos that were not widely distributed by the media. Then he digs deep into the archives for a horrifically illustrated tour of experiments that make a persuasive case that certain, predictable situations corrupt people into wielding power in a destructive way.

He describes Stanley Milgram's 1963 Yale-based research demonstrating that people will behave sadistically when confronted by an authority in a lab coat. ” A vast majority of the subjects delivered what they were told were dangerous electric shocks to a learner in another room, to the point of apparently killing the other person. Researchers skeptical of his results replicated them. This time, professors demanded that students shock real puppies standing on electrified grills. Zimbardo's own prison experiment turned an ordinary group of young men into power-hungry-guards, "humiliating equally ordinary-prisoners" in the basement of Stanford's psychology building. The descent into barbarity was so rapid that Zimbardo had to cancel the experiment after a few days.

The recipe for behavior change isn't complicated. -All evil begins with a big lie, ”says Zimbardo, whether it's a claim to be following the word of God, or the need to stamp out political opposition. A seemingly insignificant step follows, with successive small actions, presented as essential by an apparently just authority figure. The situation presents others complying with the same rules, perhaps protesting, but following along all the same. If the victims are anonymous or dehumanized somehow, all the better. And exiting the situation is extremely difficult.

Abu Ghraib fit this type of situation to a T, says Zimbardo. The guards, never trained for their work helping military interrogators, worked 12-hour shifts, 40 days without a break, in chaotic, filthy conditions, facing 1,000 foreign prisoners, and hostile fire from the neighborhood. They operated in extreme stress, under orders to impose fear on their prisoners. Zimbardo believes the outcome was perfectly predictable, and while never absolving these soldiers of personal responsibility, believes justice won't be done until -the people who created the situation go on trial as well: George Tenet, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and George Bush .

Related articles and information:
-) Website - The Lucifer Effect
-) The beginning and end of good and evil
-) Travel Course: Why Is There War?
-) Who are the international private banking cartel?

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2 thoughts on “Het Lucifer Effect: hoe “goede” mensen “slechte” dingen doen”

  1. Zo? Heeft U ’n klein vuurtje, voor het vervaardigen van producten voor deze mensen zijn al wel vele vuurtjes gebruikt. Soms even ’n beetje opwarmen, toch? De meeste mensen komen er zelf achter wat ze beter kunnen doen, soms is een beetje hulp van de andere kant wel nodig….. Er zijn er een stel die veranderen hun hele leven niet…..

  2. Goed en slecht, wat mij betreft de persoonlijke invulling van de mens op persoonlijke zaken. Goed en slecht zijn naar mijn mening gedachtespinsels van de mens en de ‘slechtere’ mens lijkt overduidelijk te winnen in dit momentele bestaan. Het ‘zondig denken’ is samen met religie ingevoerd en tast feitelijk ons neutrale beoordelingssysteem ernstig aan. Ik heb geen idee hoe en waarom wij als mensen zijn geprogrammeerd, maar de praktische uitvoering tot zover bevalt me niet helemaal… immer hoop ik op een diepere grondslag als reden tot ons bestaan, maar het antwoord daarop zal eentje zijn waar ik mijn leven lang op zal jagen, maar nimmer zal vangen.

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